Investigation: Lucky #13

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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Amber Nelson » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:15 pm

I practice Moxie, not that great at it, but I'll do whatever I can to help with this. If I am not mistaken, both of my siblings also practice Moxie as well, so between the three of us, I'm sure we will be of some help.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby kenneth_wright » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:48 pm

Question: Could the outcomes of alternative timelines be ... shifted ... in order to bypass their luck manipulation and/or mitigate its effects?
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:36 pm

Not sure. I don't know as much about TAC and that chronological manipulation you use. Might do. Mixing it in might be something they're not ready for. We'll have to check.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:33 pm

I hear that the Lady herself has told all her Socialites to deal with these fuckers. How nice.

My own opinions aside, we can't let the Carnival take control of Moxie.
They've turned to attacking us. Here's some more information - there's more to know.
  • The clown attackers are made up of real and fictional forces. The little ones are living, breathing Carnies (carnival workers). The powerful clowns are figmentary. The Nightmare Clown in black and white with the laughing sounds around him is a being made of fear.
  • The figmentary forces qualify as "beings of chaos" in the eyes of Tayet-Re magic, as Sebastien was able to truly injure it. (Other attacks seemed to be ignored by it.)
  • The clown is tied into the works of the Ringmaster, but it might have been here first in a different form. The clown is the form it takes now. It is something that is still a great mystery. What is it? Is it alive?
  • What is the Ringmaster's motivation? She might hold a grudge against the Lady, but her history will take research.
  • What is the Ringmaster up to? Fleecing rubes and temporarily locking down luck/Moxie. She is seeking to permanently control the Lockdown and will likely leash The Lady, hoard Luck and sell it for profit.
  • Odd question - How did the Fat Cats rise to power back in the City?
  • We pissed the Carnies off by warning the rubes away from them. The Don, Carmines and Canary hate them, as Moxie users and the Conquest Teams are after them for the matches they fucked with (Poma take their Conquest very very seriously).
  • Where are they headed? They need desperate or gullible people to fleece, so they will go where concentrations of refugees are. This means the Republic and the Principalities, in some regard, as well as the Arcadian areas, but mostly the biggest target is Lake Tangent and the Sisters of Lyria.
  • How do we attack the Ringmaster's Wheel artifact? Physically smashing it may not work so easily. She's been making it for a long time so osing it will slow her down. It's hard to replace. Might be able to steal it, but it's always on her.
  • How do we attack the Ringmaster? She's mortal and has normal limitations, though she is clearly a magic-user, artificier, diplomat and expressionist.
  • The Canary has a connection to The Lady and will be a target of the Carnival, eventually.
  • Men-hi-ta offered to help study how to break the wheel or stop the Ringmaster's use of it, as she studies both Artifacts and Divinity.
  • If we interrupt the cycle of passing on the bad luck to victims after the Carnival reaps the good luck, it will build up pressure and might blow up on the Ringmaster
  • How do we disrupt their plans? In the short run, by empowering The Lady. Moxie users can empower her through events like the casino night but also helping the poor and downtrodden. Don't worship her. Expressionist and Diplomats can warn folks about the 13th Ring's bullshit and keep them from getting more rube/victims.

Questions remain, of course. What is the nightmare clown? Who is/was the Ringmaster? What does all of this have to do with how the city works (G.C. - Or doesn't)?
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Dylan Coffey » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:32 am

Good evening,

My martial intuition revealed to me during the battle one certainty: the clown-beasts, one of which Sebastian struck down with his divine fire blade technique, do not possess physical form. They are strictly existences of perception.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:28 am

There's three parts to this problem:
  • Felicity Curio and the carnies
  • The Clown
  • The Wheel Artifact

Curio and the Carnies:
Cross referencing Curio and the Clown
The Carnival existed before all of this bullshit, as a regular show, no criminal reports or anything vaguely shady. I went through the paperwork trail and found old promotional ads and posters and the older ones showed a gentleman, dignified and clearly the ringmaster. A couple of years ago there was a fire and a string of obituaries, all matched to the same day, which was the day after the circus fire. The former ringmaster was among the dead.
That was as much as I could get on the paper trail. The fire is the point where everything changed, but something about me put folks off of talking about it. A diplomat would be needed to better understand the actual people involved and change the people part of the equation. We've definitely got to remove Curio from power. The carnies won't like;y just become 'good again', but it's more likely we're dealing with trauma instead of possession and it’s possible that some of them might have a redeemable streak, though not all of them.

As for the woman herself - She's handling the Carnies on charisma and loyalty, though she's made them some sort of promise or another. Again, a talker is needed to sort that out. Magically, I think she’s either capable of a grand sorcery or very close to it. Probably the worst case scenario with Moxie we're trying to dodge.

The Clown:
Found in Wraithwall monsters research:
"Gheist -
This monster used to be a person. Rather than simply becoming a ghost, however, they have rejected the identity of their former life and centered themselves around the manner of their death.
Much like its lesser cousin* the poltergeist, a Gheist may affect the physical world, even if it itself is less than corporeal. The goal of this is to stimulate fear in its victims, which it feeds upon. It may seek to create fellows, so as to harvest more fear through concerted effort.
This Accursed spirit will have an artifact, a reliquary of sorts, It may be an item that had some connection to its former life, or simply to its death. If this can be destroyed, then the resulting Gheist will be made manifest.
Sometimes a gheist may bind itself to a person who was at one point dead. Severing this bond will also weaken the Gheist.
When it has manifested, then can the Gheist be destroyed with physical force, though of course what affects any accursed creature may also be brought to bear on the monster.
*No actual relation"

Got a hit at the bookseller's too (that guy is spooky levels of impressive) of a news article of the Saints and Sinner's Day parade a few years ago - the pic had a smiling clown with a drum major’s baton leading the parade and he was a good match for our guy - “Sunshine Stan, aka Stanley Trencher.”.

Known Facts:
It is a powerful fighter and physically dangerous.
It is surrounded by the sounds of twisted laughter.
It cannot be harmed by conventional weapons.
It does not seem to be “really there”.
It moves freely in and out of shadows.
It is terrifying/creates terror.

Update: I don't have the full sense of it, but I do understand that it used to be a person and now it isn't. There was a transformative point, metaphysically. Might be related to a ghost or poltergeist, as a general direction. I'll need to know who they were and what happened to make them into this thing before we can get rid of it. I'll stay on it and hopefully have our answers after this meetup in Falconspire.


The Wheel Artifact:
That is a powerful artifact and must be destroyed to have a chance at ending the problem fully. Men-hita is close but not quite there.

We know this much -
She said that the Ringmaster's Wheel clearly took a great deal of time, effort, and power to make, the sort of thing that a capstoned Artificer can make once in their life. Though she may be twisting the rules of making Artifacts toowhile she's busy twisting all of the other rules.

Men-hita's words - "Moxie’s blessings and curses have a natural flow to them, a kind of chaotic randomness. Each condition is fleeting. The wheel seems to be able to harness that randomization to the point where Moxie users in the area of its effect are unable to utilize their magics at all. It clearly then is strong enough to contain the force of that magic and employ it at the spinner’s behest. The random element of the wheel feels like a kind of failsafe - like releasing an unusually high level of water from a dam to alleviate pressure on the structure. In essence, it gives the Ringmaster every last bit of Moxie in the area, leaving none for the other members of the Lady’s society. Furthermore, it protects her from the backlash of what that kind of intake of power would normally do to a Moxie user."

And from what we know of the deaths they've caused, she can put that backlash on others.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:42 pm

New information added to the note above regarding the Nightmare Clown.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:53 am

The Carnies tried to steal The Canary when she visited us last gather.

It was an attack of opportunity because she's rarely away from the Limelight. She has a known habit of staying in a single comfortable place.

They've got her under surveillance and watch for when she leaves.

Curio is taking time to perfect the ritual she needs, so the Carnies are currently out of makeup and laying low.

If the Endings make her flee the Limelight, then the Carnies will take the chance to grab her.
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:01 pm

See above for the update on the Nightmare Clown/Geist (research completed) and Artifact Wheel (research nearly completed).
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Re: Investigation: Lucky #13

Postby Abby Peterson » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:50 pm

Updates on this three-part problem.

The Nightmare Clown:
DEFEATED - good job people
Very short update - the man died in fear and fear was his weapon as a Gheist. His tether (baton) was destroyed by overloading it with fear. He was pushing Curio to bury one of the Carnies alive in order to made another Gheist like him.

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Curio and the Carnies:
Cross referencing Curio and the Clown
The Carnival existed before all of this bullshit, as a regular show, no criminal reports or anything vaguely shady. I went through the paperwork trail and found old promotional ads and posters and the older ones showed a gentleman, dignified and clearly the ringmaster. Apparently his name was Horace. A couple of years ago there was a fire and a string of obituaries, all matched to the same day, which was the day after the circus fire. The former ringmaster was among the dead. That was as much as I could get on the paper trail.

Thanks to Janet looking backwards, we have a bit more. She saw two figured arguing, shadows against a tent. This appears to be Curio and Horace, who physically struggled and then there was the sound of a breaking lantern, before the fire spread. If this was my case, since he never raised an alarm himself, or escaped the blaze, she likely either killed him on the spot, or left the guy unconscious and burning alive.
Cassie is working to destabilize Curio's leadership of them. The carnies won't likely just become 'good again', but it's more likely we're dealing with trauma instead of possession and it’s possible that some of them might have a redeemable streak, though not all of them.

As for the woman herself - She's handling the Carnies on charisma and loyalty, and we have confirmation that she promised them that her plan would mean no more bad luck for them ever again. She's never turned on them before, like she did with sacrificing the girl to the Gheist. It's caused stress on her relationship with her people (though there are clearly some zealots by now). They either don't know she set the fire, or she's convinced them it was an accident (which might be the truth). I highly doubt that they know about Horace's death and even she will react erratically from guilt to being called out on it.

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The Wheel Artifact:
STILL IN PROGRESS - That is a powerful artifact and must be destroyed to have a chance at ending the problem fully. Men-hita is close but not quite there.

We know this much -
She said that the Ringmaster's Wheel clearly took a great deal of time, effort, and power to make, the sort of thing that a capstoned Artificer can make once in their life. Though she may be twisting the rules of making Artifacts too while she's busy twisting all of the other rules.

Men-hita's words - "Moxie’s blessings and curses have a natural flow to them, a kind of chaotic randomness. Each condition is fleeting. The wheel seems to be able to harness that randomization to the point where Moxie users in the area of its effect are unable to utilize their magics at all. It clearly then is strong enough to contain the force of that magic and employ it at the spinner’s behest. The random element of the wheel feels like a kind of failsafe - like releasing an unusually high level of water from a dam to alleviate pressure on the structure. In essence, it gives the Ringmaster every last bit of Moxie in the area, leaving none for the other members of the Lady’s society. Furthermore, it protects her from the backlash of what that kind of intake of power would normally do to a Moxie user."

And from what we know of the deaths they've caused, she can put that backlash on others.
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